I just sent the final proofs of the #ActivityPub book to the editors at O'Reilly.
I'm done; with this part, at least.
I am not sure what I'm going to do with all that surplus time. I should probably start a huge new project!
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Evan Prodromou
in reply to Evan Prodromou • • •I turned in my manuscript at the end of May; we've done 5 rounds of edits since then. Making books is hard!
https://evanp.me/2024/06/03/i-turned-in-my-manuscript/
I turned in my manuscript!
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in reply to Evan Prodromou • • •You can still read the pre-release version on O'Reilly Learning Platform for free with a 10-day trial of the service. I don't know how much longer that deal is going to be around.
https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/activitypub/9781098162733/
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http://evanp.me/2023/10/06/activitypub-the-socialcg-and-the-social-web/
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in reply to Evan Prodromou • • •everton137
in reply to Evan Prodromou • • •I'm quite disappointed to see so many Brazilians migrating to Bluesky. But I don't blame them. I see the logic to be where the crowd is if you don't know the importance of points you raised.
Unfortunately it appears only a few people, as compared to the big tech social media, are aware of it.
It was more disappointing to see people continuing to use x tho.
Evan Prodromou
in reply to everton137 • • •@everton137 Absolutely. You saw that we have had 2M new users since August on the Fediverse, right?
https://fedidb.org/
We're seeing a lot of growth here.
FediDB, Fediverse Network Statistics
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in reply to Evan Prodromou • • •I've seen some other numbers that indicated more Brazilians coming here. But the bubble I used to interact in Brazil when I lived there, some (data) journalists, access to information and even some open source and data privacy folks, seem pretty active on Bluesky. That's the main reason of my disappointment.
I am glad the new director of the organization I founded 11 years ago, @okbr, has decided also to create a profile in the fediverse. I hope they will be active and not only replicate content.
I don't live in Brazil for more than 8 years, so I am afraid to have strong opinions, and I am now just a foreigner (still an immigrant latino) living in the comfort of Europe. @josemurilo might have a better understanding of the reasons behind most people in Brazil have migrated from x to Bluesky.
#fediverse #Brazil #X #BlueSky
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in reply to Evan Prodromou • • •@everton137 bummed that you have such a negative public take on atproto and Bluesky and see it as antagonistic and "dangerous".
I have a huge respect for ActivityPub and the folks involved, including you. I think we are all working towards the same goals, there is no final word on protocols/architecture/governance/regulation in this space, and that there is a lot of room for collaboration.
Evan Prodromou
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Hey, Bryan. I like that BlueSky, the social network, is an active part of the Fediverse through BridgyFed.
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in reply to Ariel • • •@arichtman @everton137 That was a little brief.
The point of ATProto is to be different and incompatible. That's the business model.
Any benefits that come out of that primary goal are secondary. Yes, their moderation system is more distributed. I think there are precedents of doing client-side moderation, like email spam filters, that we could use for the Fediverse.
But the features aren't the point. The point is a protocol that the company owns and controls.
everton137
in reply to Evan Prodromou • • •got it. Thank you for sharing!
Just one point, isn't AT Protocol open source?
#atprotocol #activitypub #OpenSource #BigTech
Evan Prodromou
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in reply to Evan Prodromou • • •@everton137 you asked why the BS protocol exists. I just explained the why.
Once Elon Musk bought Twitter, the BS company's deal to federate Twitter first fell through. So they've been in zombie mode for the last couple of years; their original reason for existing is gone, but they had a big pile of money, and they didn't want to give it back to Twitter. So they kept it and kept going.
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in reply to Evan Prodromou • • •everton137
in reply to Evan Prodromou • • •yes, that was my question. Your explanation is clear. And you raised important points the general public doesn't know. Again, thanks for sharing.
If I'm reading arguments from developers comparing both protocols, I think it's fair enough to ask. I hope more people can be aware of it. It's easy to follow the trend established by those with money.
Evan Prodromou
in reply to everton137 • • •@everton137 the one good part about BlueSky is that it's challenged us to do better with ActivityPub. They pointed out that AP's data portability isn't great; we're making a new extension, LOLA, that makes moving between servers a breeze.
https://swicg.github.io/activitypub-data-portability/lola
LOLA Portability for Activity Pub (0.2)
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in reply to Evan Prodromou • • •This is incredibly good news.
I want to move over to my own NextCloud Social instance, but there is no way I'm losing everything again after moving from Twitter and losing it all.
@nextcloud
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in reply to Evan Prodromou • • •Re: I just sent the final proofs of the #ActivityPub book to the editors at O'Reilly.
@evan@cosocial.ca start working on the sequel: ActivityPub: The Good Parts
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in reply to julian • • •infinite love
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in reply to Evan Prodromou • • •how about something that facilitates customer-side cooperative association to counter enshittification and monopoly? Generalized and dynamic global disintermedition between producers and consumers.
Should keep you busy a while.
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