Rearguard actions and squeaker elections are not enough. We need to drastically improve public education. Reduce income inequality. Promote civic nationalism and internationalism. Centre human rights and international institutions.
Part of the solution to the rise of the far-right is to accept that the existence of a moderate-right is healthy and that sometimes they identify real problems and reasonable solutions.
the org i mentioned is specifically looking at access to information and journalism, and activist networking. but it's very early days but hopefully we can document a model that can implemented elsewhere
@nemobis I agree. A lot of the talking points of right populism, like high cost of living and overwhelming numbers of refugees, are directly linked to climate change. I think a Green New Deal is an important part of defanging far-right ideology.
It’s too bad nobody saw what Steve Bannon was up to years ago when he started promoting authoritarian and fascist ideologies in Europe. Italy refused to let him rent an old monastery because they knew he was going to be training alt right authoritarians at that facility.
We could censor them, engineer some 'disappearances', buy the MSM corporations and coordinate them to solely attack those regressive, sick ideas I suppose.
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Talking / organizing about creating a system to eliminate a world view or ideas does not seem a positive thing. It is unlikely there is a magic way to stop humans being susceptible to being gullible. Education is good, but only a part.
Modelling equitable communities and governance may be another part.
@amgine I don't think you can eliminate an idea, although if you could, we'd never know.
But I think it's possible to make societal changes that make far right ideology less attractive. And if we don't want to keep having nail biter elections, maybe we should start working on those changes.
Duverger’s law. It is not education, or worldviews, which need changing; it is the electoral system. Watch Maine and Alaska in #USA #election2024 - they will not be using fptp.
And neither should anyone else.
Proportional representation eliminates the benefits of strategic voting, so less-extreme parties emerge.
I disagree. I think even engineering structural methods to keep ultranationalists out of power leaves angry, racist people in our society and civil life. You might think the percentage of people who feel that way is unaffected by external factors; I think that's untrue. And I think we have better societies and lives with less extreme nationalism around us. I am unlikely to be convinced to accept it.
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Youtube, Twitter, Instagram, are all pipelines to far-right ideology.
It's not an accident: it's by design.
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in reply to Evan Prodromou • • •We could censor them, engineer some 'disappearances', buy the MSM corporations and coordinate them to solely attack those regressive, sick ideas I suppose.
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Talking / organizing about creating a system to eliminate a world view or ideas does not seem a positive thing. It is unlikely there is a magic way to stop humans being susceptible to being gullible. Education is good, but only a part.
Modelling equitable communities and governance may be another part.
Evan Prodromou
in reply to Amgine • • •@amgine I don't think you can eliminate an idea, although if you could, we'd never know.
But I think it's possible to make societal changes that make far right ideology less attractive. And if we don't want to keep having nail biter elections, maybe we should start working on those changes.
Amgine
in reply to Evan Prodromou • • •Duverger’s law. It is not education, or worldviews, which need changing; it is the electoral system. Watch Maine and Alaska in #USA #election2024 - they will not be using fptp.
And neither should anyone else.
Proportional representation eliminates the benefits of strategic voting, so less-extreme parties emerge.
principle in political science
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