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"AI-manipulated or -generated photos and videos are a grave threat to society."

#EvanPoll #poll

  • Strong yes (51%, 328 votes)
  • Qualified yes (32%, 209 votes)
  • Qualified no (12%, 80 votes)
  • Strong no (3%, 19 votes)
636 voters. Poll end: 5 days ago

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in reply to Evan Prodromou

This is a recurring theme that I discuss with my digital literacy classes. I end up reminding them that what once took the resources of an office building in St. Petersburg can now be done in your basement with a single computer and soon may well be done on your phone in-device.
in reply to Evan Prodromou

We've only been able to rely on photos for two centuries.
in reply to enantiomer

Photography is insidious because it pretends to represent an objective reality while rendering editorial decisions invisible, placing them outside the frame.

There will be an epistemological dislocation, but I'm hopeful for a future where people think more critically about what they are shown.

in reply to enantiomer

People will develop new ways of knowing (and rediscover lost ways).
in reply to enantiomer

@enantiomer Or in any case, some of them will be people with machines.

(I believe it's possible, but also believe we may be quite far from, "person" software/ computers.)

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in reply to enantiomer

@enantiomer have you done any experiments on which divination methods are best for identifying AI-authored images?
in reply to Evan Prodromou

what an interesting question! I haven't, but if anyone has, it's probably my friend @sadalsvvd
in reply to Evan Prodromou

Was there ever a time without cheating? Even before technology, there was make-up, hairpieces and false teeth. Hand-painted pictures lied with perspective and flattery, with photos came retouches, with films the cuts and effects. Omit and add, conceal or deceive, the lie is unfortunately highly human.

Human deception, as always.

in reply to Evan Prodromou

it doesn't take a fancy statistical machine to fool people. Fraud and fakery have been around long time. If anything I think it's already increased skepticism.

Is it different that you can now pay a company's machine to help with the lying that was mostly done with people?

in reply to Evan Prodromou

Grave threat to the internet as we know it, yes, to society not so much
in reply to Evan Prodromou

Don't forget that before computers were invented Arthur Conan Doyle was convinced fairies exist due to a doctored photograph. Society still exists....
in reply to Evan Prodromou

Yes, not only for the threat to democracy etc, but due to the stress to climate as well.
in reply to Evan Prodromou

"manipulated" and "generated" are completely different use cases, and so need different answers.

google "enhancing" my photos is "manipulated". "generated" is "fake", more or less like expressionist art and has the potential to be harmful. or not.

in reply to Evan Prodromou

For all AI's many foibles, it's frustrating that But What Will We Do About Photos has been such a trap for otherwise really smart folk in the media. They're wasting so much time and effort pacing the same path back and forth, over and over, when they've fully explored it already and there's so much more to say elsewhere!
in reply to Evan Prodromou

I went with qualified no because I think society overall will adapt. But some people will remain stuck in old paradigms, and it will be very problematic for them.
in reply to Evan Prodromou

I would have been a moderate no. We're seeing the first election cycle with plausible AI generated photos and videos. So far, none have made it to the mainstream, but they still circulate on social media.
in reply to Evan Prodromou

I'm a qualified yes, simply because of how visually illiterate a lot of people are and how people reflexively fall into "seeing is believing" mistakes in general. Images are very powerful. We've built whole industries around using them to influence people, in fact that's the machine that keeps capitalism going (aka advertising, which is propaganda and psychological manipulation). So-called AI makes it much easier to generate convincing fakes quickly and cheaply, people usually only glance at images, etc.